Friday, November 6, 2009

Fishbowl Act 2 blog post.

In act 2, all the characters interact with "masks" on, using deception to spy on others. Do you think this will get them their ultimate goal? Or will it end up hurting their relationships?

17 comments:

  1. The use of deception is used to achieve an ultimate goal, but I believe it's the general tragic flaw fo almost all of the characters. Lying and dishonesty will appear to have achieved their goals on a short term scale. However, the characters that use deception will end in tragic demise.

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  2. I think that all the deception and lieing is going to hurt the relationships of the characters in the end. They may find out information by spying, but when the truth comes out they could lose a lot of relationships with the people that they considered their friends or family. I think that Hamlet's relationship with Rosencrantz and Guildestran will be destroyed because his friends are playing against Hamlet and spying on him for his parents.

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  3. Deception is basically to use techniques to find out if someone is lying or telling the truth. With Hamlet and the play within the play and the masks, it could resemble the characters trying to hide their true intensions. In other words I think that the lying that all the characters are doing will hurt all of them. Thats the problem with lying once someone starts and doesn't stop, it continues and they dig a deeper hole that they cant get out of. They lose relationships with family and friends by doing so.

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  4. I believe trust is one of the major points in this novel. No one trusts anyone else in this novel and so far nothing positive has come out it. From what I can see the lying and deception is really causing a rift in Denmark. Because everyone seems to be out for him/herself I do not see anyone getting what they truly want. I do not believe that the lying and deception can hurt any of there relationships anymore because they're relationships are already in shambles especially in Hamlet's case. The lack of trust they show with each other has already set in motion events which will end terribly for all involved.

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  5. I think that some of the characters will reach their ultimate goal by using a mask to hide their true intentions. Hamlet needs to distance himself and act strangely in order to kill his uncle. I do believe this will change his relationship with Ophelia though. She is already hurt by what he is doing and I don't think it will end well. I think that when some one changes like Hamlet has, their relationships will suffer because they don't want the same things anymore. The same thing happens in modern day.

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  6. Relationships are hurt by a lack of trust. It is impossible to build trust on deception. There are so many place where trust is lacking or where it should be much more important in this novel. Hamlet is using this lack of trust as a basis to "ruin" his relationship with Ophelia and ultimately achieve his goal of making people think that he is insane. I also agree with Maddie, I feel that many the masks have played the role in hiding true intentions. Hamlet wears a mask to hurt his relationship with the king and with his mother. Hamlets friends wear masks in order to discover the truth about him because others asked. The story is full of deciet and lies.

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  7. I think that someone will end up getting hurt no matter what because thats how it usually ends up but it could be for the best. If Hamlet really wants to be an epic hero then he must do what is best for his people and try not to be selfish. I think the relationship with Ophelia will be destroyed because she will find out that it was just for pleasure and not for pure love, unless Hamlet tries to really prove to her that he loves her. I think this story will end up tragic because I can already tell from what has happened and how awful things can be in there country.

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  8. No one seems to have a real genuine relationship in this story. They're all determined to get what they want, no matter what happens to those around them. They may be using deception now to make things go their way, but I think that this certain point in time isn't the only instance in where people are deceiving one another for personal gain. I don't think that these falters will hurt their already bruised relationships further. There's nothing to really hurt anyways.

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  9. The deception and lying that takes place will inevitably do more harm than good. Rosencrantz and Guildestran, for example, are spying on Hamlet and betraying his trust. Because every other character in the book is also looking out for their own interests, they are willing to break any trust and destroy any relationship to get what they want. Basically, I don’t think that there are any real relationships in Hamlet because everybody is more interesting in spying and using each other to get what they want.

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  10. I agree with Addie, if there was never a good relationship because of deception from the beginning then why will it ever change? From the beginning Hamlet's mom did not seem to care about everyone spying on her own son. I understand that back in this time period women were looked down on, but I know if it was me I would fight as hard as I could to get people to not really pay attention to Hamlet, and make it my responsibility to find out what is wrong with my son. Deception has been seen throughout the play, and I honestly do not think it will change by the end. Even Hamlet's friends were spying on him because the King and Queen asked them. Hamlet is smart in the ways he going through with his plan of seeing if his uncle really killed his father or not, because of all the deception around him, he knows not to believe or trust anyone. The characters in this play are also very self- centered. To go along with the mask idea, Hamlet is living a two faced life. I think he sees everyone spying on him to try to catch him as a bad thing and that they are fake. So if they are fake why can’t he be? He puts up the second face so that he can deceive the other characters just like they deceived him. Everyone in this play will get hurt in one way or another, but Hamlet. His mask or second face makes him stay true to himself. While the others are fake behind their masks.

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  11. I think that the wearing of a mask is an effective way to deter all outside influences from your true goal. I believe that by using these masks people are able to get to their goals more efficiently as well as without people knowing about it. However, with this level of mystery there comes the price of being too secretive. Secrets easily murder relationships even if they are small or meant for the benefit of the one in the dark. In the end, they will reach their goals but at the cost of their relationships.
    Most notably this will occur between Hamlet and Ophelia. Hamlet's refusal to trust anyone and his mask of insanity is going to be hard on Ophelia not only as a women in love with him but also as a person. She will be left in the dark to be manipulated by the flickering candles that her father holds about for her. She cannot distinguish between the light at the end of the tunnel where Hamlet stands and the candle light her father holds before her, leading her farther and farther into the cave's depths. Her mask is one she cannot take off and she is easily fooled by her father's. This brings down upon Ophelia the wrath of ignorance and she will pay the price for it. Hamlet will not be able to save her because he is so hopelessly devoted to his mask.
    Masks are meant for the success of the individual without consideration for the masses.

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  13. I think that with lies only more lies come, before this is over all the charecters will get so caught up with trying to keep thier lies straight, that something is going to slip out and when it does no one will be able to trust any one ( not that they are able to now), and some one will end up getting hurt.

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  14. I think the characters wearing the masks think they're doing the right thing and think they'll reach the ultimate goal, but in reality they won't. There is so much dishonesty going on in the play, it seems like no one can trust anybody and it shows who your real friends are. The only problem is that everyone is being dishonest so who knows if there are even any true friends in the play.

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  15. The use of masks is ultimately going to pendulumn back and forth between intentions and characters getting what they want. Hamlet is playing his enemies like a game of chess. It is interesting to watch the utter deception of royalty and the falling out of love. I believe that the characters relationships are already compromised by the dual nature of character involvement. What comes next, I do not pretent to know.

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  16. I think that in the end, all the lying will completely destroy all the relationships. The foundation for any good relationship is trust, and if there is no trust, there can be no relationship at all

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  17. i think the characters wearing the mask believe they are doing good but in the end they really aren't i don't believe they will reach there ultimate goal just because they are bringing them down because no one knows who they can really trust.

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