Class- Can Hamlet trust anybody with the secret of the whereabouts of the body?
I think that Hamlet can trust Horatio with the whereabouts.Horatio is Hamlets true friend
Alex- I do not think that Hamlet can trust anybody with the secret because they could turn him in and try him for murder. No character in the play has proved to be trustworthy and none seem to be loyal to Hamlet.
I agree with Adam so far in the play Horatio is showing he is a true friend to hamlet and he is there for hamlet.
i think that hamlet was acting crazy and ophelia is just wack
Alex- I don't think it is a trust issue on the body's location, I feel he just is playing up to being crazy and just not telling anyone.
I agree with Kayla B. I don't think with Hamlet's state of mind that anybody would keep the whereabouts of his body a secret because I think most people would think Hamlet would do it again
Do you think Ophelia actually killed herself?
I think that Ophelia was insaine and thats her death was a result of that
Adam: Yes, I think she killed herself because she was so upset about the death of her husband
Kayla- So you think that even Horatio (who has been trustworthy to Hamlet according to adam) has a chance of turning his back and ratting Hamlet out if he knows the truth?
I think Opheilia really did kill herself because she was so upset about Hamlet.
Sean- you mean her brother?
I think Ophelia is quite crazy and she killed herself as a result of a broken heart, and a murdered father...murdered by the man who broke her heart. So that is a double whammy.
Adam- I do think that Ophelia actually killed herself because I don't think that there would be anyone to murder her and she was acting crazy beforehand and then disappeared. Also we saw in the movie that she killed herself and it was said that she killed herself in the other movies and the play.
oops father not brother
I agree with Jenna with Ophelia's death. I think she was crazy and in her own world and was just unaware of what she was doing. I also think that her mind was so preoccupied with sadness that she was unaware of what she was doing.
yeah sorry kayli :) thanks for that
Alex- Even though I think that Horatio has been a good friend up to this point I feel that this is a big secret to ask someone to keep and I think that even though they are good friends he might tell someone.
kyle- I don't think she killed herself as a result of those two things i think she went crazy in order to deal with that, and she died as a result of that. I don't think it was suicide.
believe that Ophelia's death was a suicide. The situations she is in with her father's death and Hamlet's false declarations of love have made her mad. The fact that she was singing when she drownded just shows that she truly is crazy. Ophelia couldn't handle her situation any longer and she decides to deal with it by committing suicide.
I think the question of if Ophelia really killed herself is not one that you can really prove, I think Shakespeare may have done this on purpose and the truth will come out before the end of the book.
The inner circle is saying that Hamlet is a coward. Why is Hamlet a coward, or is he a hero?
Adam- i think because Ophelia has gone crazy and she wanted to get away and be with her father making her want to kill herself.
John-I think Hamlet is a little bit of both because he can somehow get into coward situations but can somehow get into heroic situations.
Kyle- I agree that Ophelia did kill herself, because on top of her becoming crazy, her former love killed her father, which topped everything off for why she would have reason to kill herself.
John- I don't think that Hamlet is either. He is not a hero because everything he is doing is coming from revenge, nothing that he wants accomplished will benefit anyone except himself. However, he is not a coward either because he really is standing up for what he believes will make the situation better; more to his liking.
Kelli-How has Hamlet been in Heroic situations?
John- He is a coward because he doesn't act when he should he isn't really a hero because he doesn't know when the right time to attack is and he doesn't have the hero characteristics.
Class- Has anyone told Ophelia that Hamlet killed her father?
John...he is a heroic coward. He feels more than he acts. He's not like a soldier, beowulf, who just fights mindlessly for glory. Hamlet has feelings so people think of him as a coward. He's not a complete coward. He's just not a soldier type.
John- I thought she drowned because her clothes were too heavy.
john- i don't think hamlets a coward, he really does try to be courages for his father and he wants to avenge him, but he realizes that the murder won't be as easy as he thought
Do you think Shakespeare is trying to complete the idea of the Oedipus complex, which is the desire to kill your father and lay with your mother?
Lexi just brought up a great point. Class- Do you think that Hamlet wants to get rid of Claudius for revenge or is it so that Hamlet can have Gertrude?
I think that Hamlet is a coward because he has had plenty of chances to kill the king so why doesn't he just do it? It seems like Shakespeare did this just to prolong the play
kyle-I don't think he is a coward at all. I believe in the term "the pen is mightier than the sword" and Hamlet has been trying to kill the king skillfully/intelligently all throughout the play. In stead of mindless murder.
Ascully- I think Shakespeare prolonged it to show the conflict within Hamlet when he thinks about killing someone.
Dierdre- I agree with Maddy. Laertes is the one taking the action, while Hamlet is obliged to, as the Ghost told him.
Jeremy- I do think that Shakespeare is trying to complete that idea of the Oedipus complex because he is trying to kill his father ( or in this case step father/ uncle) and he also seems to have a way too close relationship with his mother. As seen in the movie Hamlet and his mother kiss which does not seem appropriate for a mother and son.
Nick- how exactly has hamlet done anything to kill Claudius skillfully and intelligently?
Nick- so do you think that Hamlet will try to kill his uncle at all? or will it stay as killing him intelligently and not physically
Jeremy- I dont think that is what Hamlet is trying to do. The ghost of his father came back and asked him to avenge him, So I don't think his plan is to lay with his mother, but to get her away from a murderer.
does hamlet know that Ophelia is dead?
Nick...he feels fear and restraint. He is not a full coward...but he has some coward like qualities. And I agree...the pen has the power to send the sword to war. BOOYAH! So I think hamlet is both.
Jenna- Claudius found a skillful and intelligent way to kill Hamlets father, so there are obviously some way he can kill claudius without being to obvious.
I'm saying that he will kill him but he'll try to do it in a way that will clear himself of blame (Example: he started acting crazy so people would stop suspecting him.) Also, he's trying to kill Claudius in a manner and time that will make sure Claudius is damned. (Example: he didn't kill Claudius when he was praying.)
I do not think Hamlet will care at all. I think he will be sympethetic but I do not think he will be upset.
Class- Random Question: I know that we used to compare the beginning of Hamlet to the Lion King- should we still compare it to The Lion King, seeing as more of the play moves along, it moves away farther from the plot of Lion King?
Alex- I agree with that, although Hamlet has his chances to kill Claudius, He is craftily planning out a way to avenge his fathers death
I agree with Jeremy, maybe he will feel sympathy but she betrayed him by helping spy on him so most positive feelings towards her are already gone
I agree with Jenna i think that Hamlets tragic flaw would be his inaction
John-I could see where you are going with this, I feel obviously not all of Hamlets themes will be portrayed in a children's movie.
Even if Hamlet is considered crazy when he blatantly kills claudius, everyone will still know he killed him and will get charged.
John- I think that there is a small relation to the Lion King still. I think that parts of the plot are left out or modified because the movie is for little kids. However, Simba's relationship with Nala is similar in that no emotion is ever shown between them and that he leaves her for a long period of time. You are left wondering about their relationship almost during the entire movie and are never clear about it until the ending.
I think that Hamlet made a good decision not to kill Claudius in the confessional because he didn't want to go to hell and that way he can catch him in a an act of doing something he shouldn't be doing.
john- I think it still has some relation to the lion king but most of the stuff going on in the play is being changed for little kids.
I think that it is Hamlets inaction that is his downfall. He has the drive he just doesn't have the follow through. I think that this is because Hamlet is looking for the perfect time to kill his uncle. He wants everything to be ideal and that is going to be almost impossible to accomplish at this point. Hamlet has spent so much time building himself up that he will never settle for anything that he hasn't deemed perfect.
Louise- What does this say about Hamlet? Are you saying that his inability to act makes him a coward?
Rachel- I think that this makes him human but not necessarily a coward. It is not human nature to easily be able to kill someone.
I also feel that Hamlet is waiting for the perfect time to kill Claudius but I think that his time is going to run out or he is going to get caught before he can perform the murder. I think he is just making up excuses to put off the murder because he is too scared to actually kill him.
I think Horatio is there to make hamlets revenge possible. If hamlet tried to kill Claudius and then say the reason was he saw a ghost every one would think he was crazy, how ever, Horatio has also seen the ghost.
Addie- Yes, Horatio is the only one that is still loyal to Hamlet because everyone is against him but Horatio.Substitute- I agree with Phil and Alex that Horatio is there so that Hamlet is there to keep a check on Hamlet and be one person that doesn't completely think that Hamlet is crazy.
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Rachel- I think that Hamlet thought that he was killing Claudius instead of Polonious and that he was in such a rage that it happened easily. I think that he is over thinking the murder too much and that is why he is struggling to kill his uncle. I think he also was trying to find the truth before killing him and that has taken too long.
Rachel- I think that the only reason that he was able to kill Polonius was because he was driven by so much rage. It was a blind rage that had been building up and it was in the moment. I also think that had he been able to see Polonius it never would have happened because it was not the person that he was seeking and also because then it would have been a personal thing. I think it would be harder to look someone in the eye and kill them than to blindly stab from behind a curtain.
Also, in regards to Horatio, it seems like Horatio is always Hamlet's best friend showing the true meaning of a friend. After all, they did go to school together and it just seems like Horatio has always been true and loyal.